Capitalism is way to nowhere: with Immortal Technique

April 14th, 2013

Published on Russia Today RT, April 12, 2013.

Watch this video, 14.40 min: Corporations ‘are making too much money off of this stage of evolution, the capitalism, to stop and get off us to the next level’, the American rapper Immortal Technique (Felipe Andres Coronel, born February 19, 1978) said in an interview with RT.  The musician says the only thing that people are separated by is language and the inability to understand, that humanity has no other choice but to shift to a new economic idea doing away with devastating capitalism. But unfortunately people choose not to understand, he adds.

RT: When Hugo Chavez passed away you took to Twitter to discuss his leadership, his legacy. You clearly sparked some debate. No doubt that Chavez was a huge figure in South American politics. How do you believe his death will impact the continent?  

  • Immortal Technique: When people talk about his death leaving the country divided let me remind you that we live in a very divided country right now. Mr Chavez earned the relationship that he had with the US when he nationalized resources, when he became a vocal critic of some of the overstepping of this country [the US]. Now if any other country we do business with tries to do the same thing, whether they are a country we have some sort of relation with, or they are a client state, they are going to find themselves in the same situation where their leader or anyone who is responsible for making this sort of decisions is demonized.
  • That being said, I think, even though Mr Chavez was a very inspirational figure especially in the Latino community it was during that time, I remind people, when Saddam Hussein had been toppled – fresh in people’s minds, when Afghanistan had been invaded, when there was talk of going into any other country and here was this upstart man saying ‘Mr Bush, you are an alcoholic, you are a donkey, you are coward, you will need your own troops if you get in your head to invade Venezuela I’ll meet you right here in this savanna’. You know, people hold all kinds of accusations at Mr Chavez. I heard people say that he was anti-Semitic. Anything they can do to defame him of not giving Israel a blank cheque shouldn’t be regarded as anti-Semitism. He in 2009 came and recognized the right of Israel to exist. That was downplayed in the news he added to that he acknowledged the right of Israel to exist but in existing it has to acknowledge the human rights of Palestinians as well. When you attach a statement like that to recognition I guess that in some people’s minds even the question that Palestinians are human beings or that they deserve the same rights as others is controversial.
  • The oil crisis that he created, he didn’t create it actually – there were several other factors that were involved in there, but other people were looking at it and thought how they could maximize their profits this quarter, and he simply decided to use the political capital and the economic capital that he had with his large oil reserves to make his ideas more popular in Latin America, which he succeeded in doing.

RT: Do you think that Hugo Chavez’s project of anti-imperial socialist South America is in danger without him?

  • IT: I think it’s in danger with or without him. I think that interesting thing about him is that his great strengths are also some of his weaknesses. The idea that he would give this money and this good will to people, and he essentially gave away more money to Cuba and all of Latin America, than the US gave to Latin America probably with playing Columbia and he did, which is really frightening. I think that when Venezuelans look at it, I went down there twice, the first time in 2005 when they were very motivated and I saw people with revolutionary spirit of all walks of life and then returning again to see their economy on the decline 4-5 years later.
  • When examining all of these factors you can see the people of Venezuela saying ‘We are glad that we are having good will towards other countries, but what about our country?’ And that was one of the biggest criticisms that I heard of him of his not investing that capital that he built up to create a strong infrastructure within Venezuela. I mean they are all the legitimate criticisms of a man, he is not God. He was somebody who was in a position of power, who decided to troll the US infinitely and very well in fact, and really made his case in front of the rest of the world and said a lot of things that they probably thought but didn’t want to ruin their relationship with their foster daddy here.

RT: What do you think will be Washington’s next move in the region? Obama has already said that he wants to turn the page in relation between the two countries. Will Washington try to take advantage of the current situation? … //

… Entrenched capitalism a nail in humanity’s coffin:

RT: You have managed through a lot of hard work to become an independent successful rapper. You’ve tried not to sell out, not to sign your authority and decision-making away when it comes to your own creativity. Is it becoming harder to maintain that type of integrity in today’s music industry?

  • IT: Everybody who is going to recover out there knows that when you get over the first few first years it gets easier. When you are winding yourself off the industry cocaine and heroin, because that’s essentially what they are, they provide things that people get used to – budgets, sponsors. It makes it more difficult when you have to put up the money and take the risk in the investment yourself although the reward is much greater. If you are actually reaping the benefits of that by setting it up in a structured deal that is heavily in your favor. When you take the majority of the risk and put the majority of the money so you are taking out the majority of the profit, which is why we are scuffed at the accusation of Marxism and communism.
  • I understand how this system functions as well. I look at those things as being part of the building blocks of humanity, they are stages of evolution that we are going through. And unfortunately people are making too much money off of this stage of evolution, the capitalism, to stop and get off us to the next level, because if we are still here in a hundred years then we’ll basically put a nail in a coffin for humanity to the point where we can’t speak about healthy food without being persecuted by the companies that sell food – that’s bad for you. They are making too much money selling processed stuff that is going to be proven to give people cancer in order to stop it and take it from the market.

RT: How can it be stopped? Do you think it’s possible in a country like the US, where it’s set up that way?

  • IT: I heard this debate a lot. What kind of crisis is it going to take? Is it going to take a cataclysm that threatens all of humanity for us to look at one another and say ‘It doesn’t matter what color he is, or what religion she is?’ We are all human beings and in order for us to kill one another we have to find these horribly divisive tiny little things that we can expand and make seem huge, while in reality we are simply separated by language and the inability to understand because we choose not to understand. The ability is perfectly there.

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